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Logic 9 Cleaning Up My Mess of Tracks

Discussion in 'Logic 9' started by skipsax, Aug 28, 2010.

  1. skipsax

    skipsax New Member

    Just finished a project in Logic Pro 9. Everything is bounced, mixed and as I like it. All my cuts/pastes/edits/overdubs in each track are divided up into a million small audio files that make up each comp track.

    I've tried "bounce in place" and "bounce replace" but the mix sounds different when I do that. I think I even tried "flatten and merge" in the individual tracks.

    Certainly I could leave it as is but I don't want to go in and accidentally mess up stuff where I've moved the files left or right to line up and groove, etc.

    Obviously, I'm going at this the wrong way. Please point me in the right direction to preserving what I hear, but with one nice, clear track for each instrument.

    Thanks much.
  3. Doug Zangar

    Doug Zangar Senior member

    BIP and Bounce Replace have choices that may affect the mix (effects, tails, automation...) so depending on what you select it could sound different. Flatten and merge of your comp folders shouldn't change the sound... or does it?

    You could SMPTE lock all your regions or even protect your tracks as well (this was buggy but I think it works now - save a copy before you do this...)

    You could also use the glue tool to create contiguous audio and MIDI files.
  4. bobdemaa

    bobdemaa Senior member

    It is possible that the bounce in place could change the sound of your files. One thing to note right off is that if your channel is indicating clipping? Bip has the option to normalize to adjust the level because you are going from 32bit float point math to a hard 24 bit file. During playback that clipping light doesn't matter at all, but when you reduce To a 24 bit file it most definitely does matter. So if you have the normalize option selected the overall volume of your track will be reduced and without adjusting the level post Bip, it may at first listen sound diffent until you bring the level back up.

    There are other variables but this is the most likely first encounter.
  5. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Hi Skip,

    My guess is that your bounce results are sounding different because you are playing them back on the same track(s) that have the plug ins that were applied to them during the bounce. Does that seem like it could be the case? If os, just play them back on "fresh" audio track(s) and you should be fine.

    In any case, there are a few different ways you could approach things. One is do nothing, and leave all the edits as is. And yes, you run the risk of accidentally changing something unintentionally (it's happened to all of us at one time or another!).

    Alternatively, you could pack them all into a folder and work with the folder track at the Arrange Window level. This gives you the most flexibility. You have one object to deal with at the Arrange level, and so avoid the possibility of altering things unintentionally. And you can always double click and go inside the folder if you want to tweak any of the edits.

    The other thing, as Doug suggested, is to merge the regions per track (either with the glue tool or the merge command). This might be the best solution in your case if you really want to deal with one single contiguous region at the Arrange level. The merge won't include any effects processing on the track; so you can continue to play it back on the track with the plug ins and freely tweak the settings as needed as you continue to complete your project. Keep in mind that AFAIR, the merge command does take into account the initial volume settings present on the track, and will exclude in subsequent automation. So keep this in mind, it may or may not suit your needs in this specific situation.
  6. skipsax

    skipsax New Member

    Great replies all - thanks. Now I've got to digest this and see which solution(s) work best. Again, thanks to all.
  7. skipsax

    skipsax New Member

    Got this on another forum. Sounds REALLY easy. Too good to be true??

    "Click on the track header so it selects all regions on that track and hit the "=" (equal) key. That should merge all regions onto a new region."
  8. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Yes, it is that easy. The = key is the default key command assignment for merging regions together . ie: the equivalent of the glue tool. And yeah, selecting the track header is the easiest way to select all per track.

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