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Logic 9 Export logic session into cubase 5?

Discussion in 'Logic 9' started by Rodney D, Sep 9, 2011.

  1. Rodney D

    Rodney D Member

    How do I export my logic session and import it into cubase 5? I have produced some songs for an artist but he uses cubase 5. I want him to have some input over the mix as well. I know how to send files but I don't know the actual procedure on how to export the audio/session from logic. I want to give him 2 sessions....a mixed session and a raw session.

    Please help me.
  3. Markdvc

    Markdvc Administrator Staff Member

    Bounce all your audio files with the same start point - the easiest would be to have them all start right at the beginning of the song. You can export Midi data in Midi file format. You will lose some logic specific stuff, such as automation, and of course any Logic effects or instruments will have to be rendered into audio beforehand - make sure to include this in the audio files. If you want to leave all options open, you will bounce audio twice, both with and without effects.

    kind regards

  4. Rodney D

    Rodney D Member

    Thanks Mark for you quick response,

    I want him (artist) to see the song arranged the same way as I have it. Such as the piano track at the beginning (bar 1). Then the drum track start later (bar 9). If I bounce all the audio files with the same start point, will logic keep the same song arrangement, will I see the quiet spots where some tracks AREN'T supposed to play? And will logic keep the same track order?
  5. Markdvc

    Markdvc Administrator Staff Member

    Logic will keep the song arrangement, but that won't help your client, as he isn't using Logic. He will not be able to open your logic project, rather, will need to take the audio files generated by bouncing, as well as the Midi stuff, and build these into a cubase ptroject. Perhaps some screenshots of your arrangement in Logic will help, but you are going to have to write a lot of notes explaining what goes where.

    Alternatively, you could ask whether cubase supports open TL and/or AAF and export using these formats. I have been able to open Logic projects exported as Open TL in Nuendo, but there were usually various bits and pieces that afterwards needed to be straightened out, it was less than perfect. The safest route is audio and midi files, but either way he won't be able to just click and open something in Cubase and have a project ready to go as it was in Logic.

    kind regards

  6. Rodney D

    Rodney D Member

    Thanks Marks,

    That really hurts!
  7. CSeye

    CSeye Senior member

    I have had good success in the past by:
    1. Exporting the DAW (Logic or Cubase) MIDI tracks to SMF.
    2. Exporting the audio to OMF (or AAF which will do a fair job of retaining any automation)
    3. First import the SMF into the other DAW (in your case-Cubase) as it retains the tempo map and markers.
    4. Then import the OMF (or AAF).

    The projects I exported/imported had audio files of various lengths, at various locations along the time line and all ended up where they belonged.

    But the safest option is as Markdvc describes.
  8. Rodney D

    Rodney D Member

    Before I posted my question on this forum, I looked on YouTube. I am across a tutorial posted by ThePureMixTutorials titled "Export from Logic to Protools". According to this guy, the procedure he explains will work for any DAW. When you get a chance take a look at this tutorial. It's only about 6 mins. Is this guy explaining the same procedure?
    I'm so confused.
  9. Markdvc

    Markdvc Administrator Staff Member

    Would you care to help us by posting a link to the youtube video you are referring to?

    kind regards

  10. bayswater

    bayswater Senior member

    Works for any DAW? That's overstated. Presumably, this procedure uses OMF, and it only works to the extent that Cubase has fully implemented OMF and done it properly. My recollection is that neither of these is particularly true. Markdvc has outlined the process. Don't expect to be able to move things back and forth between DAWs without making yourself crazy. For any particular project, you really ought to pick one version of one DAW and stick with it.
  11. Rodney D

    Rodney D Member

  12. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Yup, the method described in this video will work fine, Mark's method will work too, and also allow for including MIDI data. The method in the video above doesn't include any MIDI data or tempo information (other than putting the tempo in the name, which won't include tempo changes). But it is a fast and easy elegant solution for moving audio only between systems.
  13. Rodney D

    Rodney D Member

    All I want to do is move the arranged song (intro, verse, chorus, etc) with all audio/wav files on it's own individual track. The same way I see the song in logic minus the mixer. I want my client to see the arranged song and all it's parts/tracks in cubase 5, minus the mixer. No midi, no automation, just the audio. Is this possible and which procedure should I use.....Mark's or the video?
  14. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Either way you do it, it won't "look" the same as your Logic project. Each track will be rendered out to a single full length audio file. It will sound the same (plus or minus effect plug-ins) but will look like one contiguous region across the entire length of each track.

    If Cubase has some sort of "trim the empty spaces out of the region" function, he could do that on his end and it will look closer.

    If you are really concerned about it visually looking the same, your best bet is OMF export plus MIDI file. But that won't factor in plug-ins.

    I'm afraid there's no single one answer to your question. You'll need to make some compromises somewhere along the way. Personally, if it were me, I would export all tracks as in the video, once with effects and once without. Deliver it to him with the proper instructions explaining that they are two separate sessions. And explain to him that will need to trim away the empty spaces in the regions if he wants to get an approximation of what the original session "looks" like.
  15. Rodney D

    Rodney D Member

    Thanks Eli,

    The solid answer I was looking for. I know he will trim out the quiet spots of the audio. My concern was having to reconstruct the song arrangement, which would be a royal pain....30+ tracks.

    Thanks again

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