Do you see knobs in BF-76 or Joemeek ? i do not see them btw fyi i've workarounded it, just load a preset and knobs will be there again. Do you have the same issue or am i alone? mac pro core i7 + 10.5.8 + logic 9.0.2 + pt 8.0.1 the sad thing is that it will never be fixed!!! i can't upgrade to 10.6 i can't update logic i'm stuck!!! thanks!! i love apple/digi, you make my life better, really!!