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Logic 9 how to get from Logic to ProTools in Logic 9 Help!

Discussion in 'Logic 9' started by orvillej, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. orvillej

    orvillej New Member

    I'm trying to get a project from Logic 8 over to Protools. It's all audio files with no plug-ins, panning, or such. I wish to do my editing and comping in PT so I need to get all the tracks with their alternate takes lined up so I can import into PT and have audio show up at the proper place in the timeline.

    In Logic 9 I see a command "bounce replace all tracks" that looks like it would do what I need. Am I right about that? Is there a similar command in Logic 8? Or is there another way?

    I know about the AAF option but it seems to me there must be some way to just "consolidate" (as ProTools would call it) all the tracks and import with the audio being in the right place.

    Will greatly appreciate your help!
  3. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Senior member

    You will have to bounce each track, or open the project in logic 9.
  4. orvillej

    orvillej New Member

    If I open it in Logic 9, is the "bounce replace all tracks" command the one I would use to accomplish what I'm trying to do?
  5. daveyboy

    daveyboy Senior member

    You want to export all tracks, not bounce. Export will spit them all out starting from the very beginning of the song.

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  6. orvillej

    orvillej New Member

    Thanks for your help so far. I have another question and please excuse my ignorance of Logic.

    In order to export all tracks as audio files is there a certain window to be looking at? If you are looking at, say, the Arrange window, does it only export tracks that are showing? Do you need to open up the Track folders so all files are displayed? My goal is for ALL the audio files to be exported as complete files starting at zero. Could someone just walk me thru steps to get that accomplished?

    Many thanks in advance.
  7. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Senior member

    I think you will have to open and enable folder tracks, for them to be included in the bounce.

    Maybe we can get the certified guys to chime in, Doug Z., Eli K. come down from the mountain and spread knowledge!:D

  8. orvillej

    orvillej New Member

    I was just on the phone with the engineer, we tried AAF export and Export All Tracks as Files and neither one gives me all the files. The AAF audio file folder doesn't show all files and the export function only gives me the tracks without the alternate takes.

    I know there must be a way to do this! What am I missing?
  9. orvillej

    orvillej New Member

    gdoubleyou, how do I enable all the folder tracks?
  10. Doug Zangar

    Doug Zangar Senior member

    Speaking only for myself, my mountain must not be very high as all the advice I could give is pretty much listed.

    Also, I suffer from memory loss on the fine points of what Logic 8 does and doesn't have as features. Logic 9 has the function Export all tracks as audio files. I think L8 has this as well. It's already been suggested to use this. If it has it and it works, you're done. If you have folder tracks that it can't work with, unpack these folders to put the tracks up on the top level with everything else and you'll be done.

    If none of this works, use the bounce function. If tracks don't start at, put a blank region of audio (record some silence) at so the bounces file starts at the beginning. You'll to do this for EACH track, I know, way time consuming with lots of tracks. (You could just do this for tracks inside folders if that is all that doesn't get exported.)
  11. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Just to echo what Doug and others are saying: Export all tracks as audio files is the ticket. And as far as take folders, I don't know of any other way other than unpacking all the takes to new tracks. Same with regular folders. It's actually not that laborious. A simple key or menu command or two, and they are all unpacked.

    As a footnote, there is a very useful feature with the export all tracks function that allows all virtual outputs of multi output software instruments to be exported as individual tracks. The option is available in the actual export window once you invoke the export command.
  12. orvillej

    orvillej New Member

    I edited this because I'm still receiving some files and I don't think I should burden you with more questions til I import them and see what they look like.

    Thanks. I'll be back soon.
  13. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    If you've flattened and merged, then yes, this is the expected behavior. The original takes are removed from the arrange Window.

    bip indicates that he used the Bounce In Place function. If you use the Export all audio tracks function, all audio files will be named according to their channel strip names.
  14. orvillej

    orvillej New Member

    Let me ask my question this way.

    If I follow these steps...

    Open Session
    Select all tracks
    Choose the unpack track folders create new tracks command
    When this is done, choose Export all tracks as audio files
    Send them to a folder on my desktop

    Will my folder then have all my tracks and alternate takes (except those we have flattened and merged) inside with their original names (for instance Keith_GTR #1, Keith_Gtr #2, etc rather than Audio 22, Audio 23) with the files, when imported into ProTools, keeping their place in the timeline rather than all tracks starting at zero?
  15. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Hi There,

    No, it doesn't work like that. Two of the things you want won't happen.

    1. Unfortunately when you unpack take folders to new tracks, the newly created tracks are not named based on the take names. Logic does provide a command to rename regions based on track names. But AFAIK, it doesn't offer that option the other way around. i.e.: renaming tracks based on region names. So the tracks created automatically from unpacking the take folders will have generic names. The only option at this point is to rename the tracks manually before exporting.

    2. The Export all tracks as audio files function does not work like an OMF export, where it time stamps the regions. What it does is consolidate each track from the beginning of the project until the end. So if you have a track with a region on it only at bar 47, the track created when exported will begin at bar 1 and will contain 46 bars of silence until the audio begins. While a bit wasteful in terms of bandwidth upload/download time and hard drive space, it does insure time alignment across all platforms. So, it is really bullet proof. But at the cost of hard drive space and bandwidth (if you are uploading/downloading).
  16. orvillej

    orvillej New Member

    Thank you, Eli.

    #2 doesn't bother me as far as having a full length track with the info only at, say, bar 47. That would be great, actually. Having it in the right place on the timeline is the important thing.

    As to naming, when the track folder is unpacked and new tracks created, do they have a naming field just like the original track so that I can have the engineer just name them in order Keith GTR #1, Keith GTR #2, etc? I'm sorry to bother you with a basic question like this, but I'm talking to the guy on the phone and can't see his screen and I'm unfamiliar with Logic's conventions.

    This is really helping me, thanks.
  17. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Are you talking about "take" folders? You keep using the word "track". In any case, yes, you can easily rename the tracks from either the Arrange Window or the Mixer. In fact, a good shortcut is to double click the name field to rename the first one, and then just hit the tab key to move to the the next track and highlight the name field automatically. If you combine this with some judicious copying and pasting, you can append the take number at the end and fly through them.
  18. orvillej

    orvillej New Member

    I am talking about the take folder. Sorry for any confusion but I am not versed in Logic's jargon. I've learned an awful lot in the last few days tho! If the engineer I worked with knew his own software I wouldn't be doing this but I've had to take things into my own hands. I really appreciate this forum and your helpfulness. I think I might find my way thru it yet. I'll try this again when I talk to him and let you know how things are going.
  19. daveyboy

    daveyboy Senior member

    It's too bad the guy you're working with doesn't just buy Logic so he can then do all the exporting himself:) Its certainly a cheap investment and would help him make more money in the future.

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  20. orvillej

    orvillej New Member

    Oh, he has Logic 9. He just doesn't know how to do anything with it besides make a track and route some sound into it. Minimal editing skills. But, looking on the bright side, I have learned enough about Logic in the last week that I think I could run it myself now. (I'm a Pro Tools guy). Everyone here has been very helpful and I really appreciate it.

    We're consulting again tomorrow to try to get this thing on the road, so if I need more advice I'll be back then. Thanks.
  21. orvillej

    orvillej New Member

    Dropping by to say thanks again to those of you who helped get me thru this tech headache. I now have the files with the info properly placed in the timeline. Now I can get back to dealing with the music! All best to you...oj

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