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How To Write a Flam in Score

Discussion in 'Logic Pro X' started by HKC, Aug 9, 2013.

  1. HKC

    HKC Senior member

    Does anybody know how to write a flam in score. There's usually a sign for it, a little note just before the main note but I can't seem to find it and I don't know the english word for it.....
  3. Pete Thomas

    Pete Thomas Administrator Staff Member

    I would use a grace note, you just write a normal (very short note) and in the note attributes you make it an indepent grace, then place it just before the note in the event list and use the layout tool to make it dispaly in the correct postion.

    However I just tried this in Logic X and it looks wrong, there may be a bug.
  4. HKC

    HKC Senior member

    It looks better in page view but I don't know much about these things. It was a friend of mine who asked :)
  5. EastWest Lurker

    EastWest Lurker Senior member

    You mean this? :)

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  6. Pete Thomas

    Pete Thomas Administrator Staff Member

    That would be a grace note, I presumed we were discussing flams which is required in drum notation, and currently appears to have a bug that displays incorrectly. Normal grace notes are fine in Logic X, it's just a problem when using a mapped drum staff style.
  7. EastWest Lurker

    EastWest Lurker Senior member

    You mean this?

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  8. HKC

    HKC Senior member

    It solved the problem here anyway. Thanks for the input. I was actually after a grace note. I just couldn't figure out how to explain it so I called it a flam because it's a little more common (to me anyway).

    All the Best
  9. Pete Thomas

    Pete Thomas Administrator Staff Member

    Glad you got it sorted.

    Just to be clear (a note from Mr Pedantic) a grace note is usually a different note to the one it precedes, often a step lower. A flam (AFAIK only a term used for percussion) is a sort of grace note that is played on the same drum, ie two sticks hit the snare, one momentarily before the other.

    Hopefully a drummer might correct this in the case that a flam can also apply to first a hit on one drum followed immediately by a different drum.

    Either way, the notation would be to use an independent grace note as I mentioned above and hopefully Apple get the randomly intermittent display bug fixed.
  10. HKC

    HKC Senior member

    I know the difference but I didn't know how to explain it so I figured that a flam had to have a similar sign :)
  11. EastWest Lurker

    EastWest Lurker Senior member

    Pete is correct and there are indeed a ton of randomly intermittent display bugs in LP X at this point in time.
  12. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Hey pete,

    I'm a drummer :D A flam is a drum rudiment. It's basically a sticking pattern. What drum the sticks fall on is separate from the actual sticking pattern. So, yes, you can play flams with one hand on one drum and the other on another. It's not uncommon.

    Having said that, all drum rudiments are usually practiced on one drum at first (snare drum usually) before being applied to the full kit. And the flam is one that often is played just on a single drum, especially since it only involves two notes in it's simplest incarnation. But it definitely can be played with the hands on different playing surfaces.

    And there are several compound flam based rudiments that are longer sticking patters (flam tap, flamacue etc) that can have some very creative drum set applications.

    Drum lesson mode: off :drm:

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