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Logic 9 Match EQ test, Wow!

Discussion in 'Logic 9' started by daveyboy, Jan 20, 2011.

  1. daveyboy

    daveyboy Senior member

    My guess is that most of you haven't played around with match eq much (or not at all like me). Tonight I decided to learn how to use it. For my test I played an electric guitar track using Amplitube3 and a demo of Recabinet3 (that's why you'll hear it cut out for a second). I then played through my fender blues deville going into a royer 122. Then, I used match eq to make the real amp sound more like the fake one! I know, weird but that's what I did. So, on the example you'll first hear Amplitube (note the small cut out part due to the recabinet demo). Then you'll here the blues deville. Thirdly you'll here the blues deville after I've used match eq to make it sound more like the fake amp. Finally you'll hear both. I do 2 measures of fake to 2 measures real back and forth. This is by no means a "scientific" test but was fun and made me think of all the other possibilities using match eq! Very cool. The file is a 16 bit 44k mono wave file, normalized and is around 9 mbs.

  3. Peter Ostry

    Peter Ostry Administrator Staff Member

    I wouldn't bet ;)

    Match EQs are more often used than one might think. Not only to make sounds similar, also in the other direction, do set them apart. For that you either learn the signals in the "wrong" order or use the ruler for the percentage to the right. It goes positive and negative.

    For example if you have a guitar or keyboard whose frequencies fight against a voice. You learn both signals and push the offending frequencies of the instrument down. You can even edit the frequency range if you don't mind some tedious mousework. This technique is sometimes preferable over ducking because it has less impact on the dynamics.
  4. Pete Thomas

    Pete Thomas Administrator Staff Member

    I'm using it very frequently.

    Sometimes in what some might think are rather sneaky ways, like adding a mute to an open trumpet. Works really well and saves a lot of time trying to find just the right EQ by listening and/or looking at an inspector.

    Another time I turned one singer into another. No it didn't work perfectly but I was quite impressed with a certain amount of turd polishing.

    I have also tried matching my crappy upright piano with some of the nice sampled grands I have.

    Another time I recorded a Little Richard 78 from an old wind up gramophone and mixed just a tiny bit of that on a final mix of a rock and roll track, it did wonders in a way I would never have thought of.

    I used to have the TC match plugin, I get the feeling it was slightly better than the Logic one. :(, still the Logic is very good and well worth experimenting as Peter says, I often use a bit of smoothing or vary the percentage.
  5. Peter Ostry

    Peter Ostry Administrator Staff Member

    Oh My God, what have you done, Pete? The vintage plugin makers will certainly sue you for ruining their business. VintageGuitar Pro, VintageBass XT, VintageDrums Boom 70, VintageVoXX and so on. They want to sell a ton of individual plugins to let you sound old! Maybe you go away with this if you say it wasn't you, it was Little Richard.

    But I will send you a cake to prison every week. Well, every month :cool:
  6. daveyboy

    daveyboy Senior member

    Sorry, forgot the board was filled with experts! Well, for the very few of you who aren't hip (like me), check it out:eeek:
  7. Pete Thomas

    Pete Thomas Administrator Staff Member

    Not at all, and I thought I was the only person who used it. Now I find that Peter Ostry knows about it as well, I guess I'll have to find something else to play with :)
  8. bobdemaa

    bobdemaa Senior member

    I use ozone 4's match Eq from time to time when a client is he'll bent on their masters sounding like artists X. As long as it's kept to a subtle % the phase doesn't get wonky. I like logics as well, but the couple of times I tried it was on a full mix and the quality wasn't suitable for that. But you guys have given me some great ideas to work into the next few mixes I do.


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