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Logic 9 Tranfering Old Logic Stuff to Logic 9

Discussion in 'Logic 9' started by HKC, May 4, 2012.

  1. HKC

    HKC Senior member

    Hi there
    I have some old songs that I want to get access to in Logic 9.
    I don't have my old Logic packages anymore but I know of some that do. I know that the last one that was fully backwards compatible was Logic 7. If I open the songs in that one, can I then save it there and then open them in Logic 9 or is it even more problematic than that......
  3. Markdvc

    Markdvc Administrator Staff Member

    Yes you can.

    Some problems may occur with any 3rd party Plugins that might have been used in the old project. For example, you have a Logic 5 windows project which used VST effects or instruments, if you open this in Logic 7, the Plugin, if present as an AU, may or may not be recognized, but the settings will not survive the transition from VST to AU.
  4. HKC

    HKC Senior member

    Thanks for the quick response.
    It is indeed Logic 5 Windows projects but never mind the plugins. It's the audio I'm after :)

    BTW did Logis 7 use a dongle, I think I still have my dongle but I have forgotten when Apple abandonned the use of it. I think it was in Logic 8 though....
    Actually I may have Logic 7 still installed on my ancient G5 if it still works. I haven't used it for 2 years.
  5. Markdvc

    Markdvc Administrator Staff Member

    Yes, the XSKey was required up to Logic 7.2.3.

    kind regards

  6. Colin Shapiro

    Colin Shapiro Senior member

    To add to Mark's advice:
    Old songs do open with Logic 7.x which even works in Lion. Yes, you just need to re-save and then the songs will open in Logic 9.x - I do this often when referring to old work.

    Your old songs may be configured with whatever audio interface and drivers you used back then, for example ASIO. When you open the song in Logic 9, all the audio channels and instruments will still show this old driver in brackets. When you select Core Audio, all the channel strip settings will be lost.

    To avoid this (if you need to keep whatever settings may survive):
    In Logic 7, go to the [Audio] menu and select [Audio Configuration]
    In the local [Device] menu, select the driver for the song (eg ASIO). All your plugins should now be shown.
    Go to the local [Edit] menu and select [Copy]
    Go back to the [Device] menu and select [Core Audio]
    Back to the [Edit] menu and select [Paste]

    You'll get an alert warning that you're about to copy the config - click on [Copy]
    Now select all the channel strips and instead of ASIO, select Core Audio.

    Your whole setup will now be configured for Core Audio. Most likely there will be several crossed-out plugins which are unavailable as Mark explained above.

    Now save the song and it should be in better shape than if you don't perform the above copy and paste routine. Most native Logic plugins and settings should survive.

    Hope this helps....
    Regards - Colin
  7. Atlas

    Atlas Senior member

    Notator Logic old files

    While we are talking about old files, I have several ones (Patterns and Songs format) on my Atari dating from Notator Logic SL waiting to be transferred to Logic...
    When I purchased Logic 8 (two years ago), I was quite pleased that it was able to load at least the .SON (Song format) files. Sadly, the .PAT (Pattern format) files were not recognized...

    Unfortunately, since I upgraded to Logic 9, I lost this ability (!):angryfire:

    I would like to know, if I could run both versions of Logic (8 & 9) on my MacBookPro (without causing some conflicts or problems!) in order to recuperate the possibility to open these files (which would save me numerous and tedious MIDI transfers between the Atari and MacBook Pro)?:brkwl:

    Or, is there another way?

    Was Logic 7 able to load Notator SL Pattern files?

    Any suggestions?
  8. Colin Shapiro

    Colin Shapiro Senior member

    I just checked and .SON files open just fine in Logic 9, so you shouldn't need to have both Logic 8 and Logic 9.

    I don't think that .PAT files ever worked in Logic. As I recall (someone correct me please if I'm wrong), only .SON files worked with the extra requirement that only the patterns in the Notator arrange list would be shown. I used to keep sysex data in pattern 99 but not include it in the arrange list, so that info is lost now. This behaviour may have changed in recent Logic versions, though I doubt it.

    The only safe way is to get your hands on an Atari, load your old songs, put all the patterns in the arrange list and re-save, then import into Logic.
  9. Atlas

    Atlas Senior member

    I found out that the .SON files "open" (not import) on one track as a folder that could then be opened in its originally laid out tracks (once doubled clicked on). The process only works with Logic in 32bit mode.
    I used to save my SysEx on the first pattern included in the song file in order to set my gears ready to play the following song...
    I recuperated my old Atari!
    The thingy works pretty well!
    Maybe I could be of some help!?
  10. Colin Shapiro

    Colin Shapiro Senior member

    @ Atlas:
    Good to hear you have a working Atari. Thanks for the offer of help. I don't have any need right now for these old songs but if I do, I'll contact you via LUG.

    Much appreciated....

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