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Logic 9 Why am I getting this?

Discussion in 'Logic 9' started by David51, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. David51

    David51 Senior member

    I am using Logic 9.1.5 and an Akai EWI breath controller, both are tuned down to 415.3 in order to be a bit more relaxed. I am having to use headphones because of thin walls and when I play the solo WIVI part it sounds fine,but when I record enable that channel strip I get Left ear a semitone lower than the Right ear. The possibilities are so many that I can't see the trees because of the forest,sorry Dutch proverb not working in english. I am sure there must be an answer but I can't get around the possibilities, I mean I could transpose the track [have tried that some but no joy] and I can transpose the WIVI software instrument, but what I can't find is the right combination. I fear I have really painted myself into a corner. I would be incredibly thankful if some of you smart users would lower yourself to my level and help an old man out of this mud.
  3. Pete Thomas

    Pete Thomas Administrator Staff Member

    can you explain what you mean by this?

    I get the feeling this is a question about the EWI or WIVI rather than Logic.
  4. georgelegeriii

    georgelegeriii Senior member

    Q: was the track "tuned" down using the pitch plug-in in Logic?

    If so, was the track in mono, before you recorded the audio, and then after this was the track changed to a stereo track rather than a mono one?

    I suspect that you installed a pitch change plug-in (can't remember the exact name) in a mono track and didn't disable it, so it' is playing one side in correctly. this would be a bug but I think that might be the issue.

    If so, change the track to mono, disable the pitch shifter plugin and then see if it's in tune on both sides. If it is, change the track to stereo, and then put the Stereo Pitch Shifter plug-in in the first insert and change the tuning from there to match your new tuning.

    I hope that makes sense...
  5. David51

    David51 Senior member

    The raising pitch over three centuries is well documented. The reason usually given is to sound more exciting[brilliant ] lowering the pitch brings some relief from thee pitch equivalent of the loudness wars. The question has to do with Logics' amazing amount of methods to do this, however, I know see that doing this through a forum is asking too much,mea culpa.
  6. David51

    David51 Senior member

    Thank you George. You make perfect sense as always. I have realized this post was not what I should have done as it would be terribly time consuming, I will follow your inquiry as to wether this 'might' be a bug as that apparently is worth the trouble. i can clarify now that no pitch changing plugin was in use, only the Project tuning settings[ and they work]. Also the track Parameters transpose was briefly tried, I decided it must be the EWI MIDI controller that had gone bad but the EWI works on all the projects at 440.

    What would help avoid my being such a nuisance is an explanation of the different paths the Audio from a software Instrument responding to a MIDI file uses when record is not enabled as opposed to the path when record enable is on.
  7. Pete Thomas

    Pete Thomas Administrator Staff Member

    I wasn't aware of that reason. I know that there have previously been many lower pitch standards, but there have also been some higher (452 and 457).

    I didn't think it had anything to do with the sound being more exciting, as I don't think most people can hear any significant difference when used as a standard. I think some people may notice if, e.g. they heard a higher pitched tune immediately after a lower pitched one, but again, I'm sure most people wouldn't.

    I know a few people with perfect pitch who can tell, but most of those think of i as a bit of a curse rather than anything good.

    What can make a difference is when one section tunes very slightly higher than the main body of the band (e.g. 442), I've often heard this with brass sections.

    I never mess with the A 440 standard, as I never know when I may want to add a real instrument. If I'd started at some other pitch this would be really awkward if I wanted to add a saxophone overdub.
  8. David51

    David51 Senior member

    I may follow your example since this experiment turned out so bad, I am sometimes reminded that I didn't die when expected, and am asked if my EWi could be used in concert with acoustic copies of Baroque Instruments, I was trying to see if that would be possible.
    Thanks for letting me vent.

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