Hi.nothing but trouble hear in TDM land after installing. had a stable L8 TDM setup, and my macbook pro was running L9 successfully so I was curious and considering going core audio only anyway...
Every 3rd or fourth time I drag something, whether its a region from the audio bin or a MIDI region on the arrange, L9 crashes. And check this out...this has happened even when I drag a file in the finder between finder windows. As soon as i disable DAE in L9, this problem goes away. weird one, huh? So for the time time being I'm running all native and very happy with it.
Macpro harpertown quad dual 2.8
8 gigs RAM
Yeah i forgot. I was thinking if i recored everything on tdm side and then mix everything native. Without the tdm mixer. A bit of a hasstle there but not too difficult.Thanx P. Still wondering if i should abandon tdm totally when upgrading my mac. I also have so many good tdm plug ins that it would be another money pit to buyÂ´em again for native.. though some ofÂ´em alrady are both. But URS for exemple is not. Then again. Recording bands/or what ever is really good on tdm.
My idea too....I only need tdm for recording without latency so any playing back or editing will be in dtdm....BUT from the looks here it seems there is something fishy with it....what's wrong and why do people use core audio through FIREFACE(of all things) instead of running dtdm?Yeah i forgot. I was thinking if i recored everything on tdm side and then mix everything native. Without the tdm mixer. A bit of a hasstle there but not too difficult.Thanx P. Still wondering if i should abandon tdm totally when upgrading my mac. I also have so many good tdm plug ins that it would be another money pit to buyÂ´em again for native.. though some ofÂ´em alrady are both. But URS for exemple is not. Then again. Recording bands/or what ever is really good on tdm.
Well, still wondering...
Ok...another question...When you work in core audio alongide tdm...can you route your core audio output through the same interface as the tdm?The problem with dtdm is you are restricted to running ALL your native tracks through the maximum 8 mono / 4 stereo pairs back into the tdm mixer. Dtdm driver is also pretty (read very f....ng) bug prone.
At least using a fireface you have the option of running all your native stuff through its outputs, as well as back into the tdm mixer via adat link if you want to process soft instruments etc with tdm plugins.
There are loads of people who have binned protools setups in favour of a purely native rig and this is really becoming a 'no brainer' if you are a solo composer using lot's of native instruments etc. Logic is a LOT more user friendly without tdm.
If, however, you are recording loads of bands / big multi mic setups, then it may well be a 'no brainer' to do that using protools.
Still nothing wrong in importing those files to logic to add midi / soft instruments etc / bounce and then go back to protools to mix or whatever....it's all a question of preference.
I used dtdm for 5 odd years and now use tdm alongside core audio....there is no competition.....the dual setup beats dtdm (which frankly sucks in limitation as well as stability) hands down.
Either way, any combination setup is going to give you problems to manually compensate for the lack of PDC on TDM objects in logic.....It really can just boil down to your preference, and whether your native D/A converters are as good / worse / or better than your tdm ones.
Another tuppence haypney.
Thanx for the answer.It stands for Plugin Delay Compensation.
Just to add I am told that native systems on the new macs with Logic have such low latency times now that recording using plugins and monitoring through the computer is easily manageable. I don't know, I use TDM to record audio in logic.
Do I ynderstand this correctly if you are using core audio out via lightpipe into the 192 simultaneously as u run tdm? Is that always in perfect sync w eachother? Yesterday I had 67 ms diff between tdm and dtdm.... Going nuts...Hi, i've bought latest mac pro 4 core 3ghz with upgrade PT HD2 pci to pcie + logic 9...
i'll let you know about it when everything arrives...
i've decided to stay on TDM and invest to them for one last time, also because of many plugs i own in my ilok...
consider that i'm not using dtdm i route 3 adat bus from and to pro-tools and motu 2403, core audio + tdm so..