bobdemaa: Yeah I have been delving into the environment and digging up old little things and trying them. Some are fun, but honestly after I wired in a drum machine a few minutes ago I realised some of these old tools aren't needed that much now (in this case because ultrabeat has taken care of all that). Maybe that's what happened with the Environment. Since computers got faster and audio and software synths being so integrated you just don't need some of this stuff as much as before. I've been running Logic since 2002 and have delved in a few times, mainly to setup all the multi instruments, but generally got things I wanted to do done without using much of it (aside from setting it up to perform live sort of like what we do in Mainstage now, which was fun, and writing a track with the USS once.) That said, it's still cool. I'm finding building things for other ways to control software synths is interested and useful. There are several examples of people doing this on Youtube. I have made a simple vector setup recently that I can use my TG33's vector ball with which is cool and some other stuff such as pads to trigger sounds and FX.
Peter: Yeah the weird behaviour you describe is what I found when I switched octave with my buttons and played new notes to try to get it recognise the new setting. It was all over the shop. If it consistently moved to the new octave setting after the new note ons it probably wouldn't be such a big deal. Also I swear at times it was falling out of sync as well, regardless of my snap to setting. This whole Arp being buggy thing this is really boring.

I mean I know there are work arounds and using multiple ones can open up massive possibilities but its a pity we can't get ONE arp to work consistently. I wonder if it's a new 9.0.2 bug? All I wanted was to control the arp settings easily in realtime a la hardware and it doesn't work properly. Oh well. I will try to build a multi one though, or steal apples one that I mentioned earlier. Thanks for your ideas though, much appreciated.

It's worth trying these things I guess as I am learning more all the time.