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Antaren

Antaren

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They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so here's the measure I'm working with:

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I'd like the first note "G" to be a whole note sustained over the f, e, and e notes . This is part of a choral score. I seem to remember there is a way to do this, but I'm not remembering it, and I'm not sure what to even call this to look it up in a book or online. Thanks for your help.
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What you need is to choose a polyphonic staff style then assign the voice to the notes by the notes' MIDI channel. I think the default polyphonic styles are all two-stave (treble and bass) so you could either create a new one or adapt one of these.

e.g.

  • Open Staff Styles in layout menu
  • Choose one with two voices in treble clef (e.g. piano 1+2/3)
  • In the staff style New menu duplicate that and rename e.g. treble 1+2
  • In the display at bottom of staff style, highlight the bass clef (it goes blue) and hit the delete key
  • Now choose this in the score inspector as your staff style
  • In the event list or inspector change the MIDI channel of notes either 1 or 2 dependng on which voice you want them
  • (Or use voice separator tool to draw a line between the two voices)
 
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Thanks to both of you, Pete and Volovigc. for our time and knowledge. This has got me going in the right direction. However I now have 2 problems.

When I get through the steps of opening staff styles, added a voice to the treble style. Hide the rests, choose channels 1&2. However when I go to change that dotted quarter note into a whole note (with the rests hidden on both channels 1 & 2) this is what I get:
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I can't find a way to just get a whole note, even though I'm dragging a whole note into the measure and it says for that note channel 2 in the event list. I made the "G" note channel 2, and the rest of the notes are channel 1.

And when I hide the rests for channel 1, it removes the rests in every bar of the soprano staff in the score. The above example is from the soprano staff.

Thanks again.
 
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Fixed some of the problem I had the "e" note in that measure set somehow to channel 2. Now it looks correct. Except that I still need to be able to see the rests in the rest of the soprano staff in this piece. How can I do this.
Thanks yet again.
 
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Antaren said:
Fixed some of the problem I had the "e" note in that measure set somehow to channel 2. Now it looks correct. Except that I still need to be able to see the rests in the rest of the soprano staff in this piece. How can I do this.
Thanks yet again.
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I would revert to the non polyphonic staff style for the passages that don't need it in that case.

Although it might work to have rests showing for one voice but not the other. You then continue with the notes using the voice that does have rests.

NB: It's technically wrong to syncopate the F over beat 3 - not so easy to sight read compared with the quaver being tied.
 
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Thanks again Pete.

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I would revert to the non polyphonic staff style for the passages that don't need it in that case.
Pete, so there's a way to revert to non polyphonic staff in just part of that staff? How would I do that? It's just one measure where I need to use the polyphonic staff.

Although it might work to have rests showing for one voice but not the other. You then continue with the notes using the voice that does have rests.

NB: It's technically wrong to syncopate the F over beat 3 - not so easy to sight read compared with the quaver being tied.
The measure is deceiving how it looks. The F is not attached to the G. The G is being tied to the G quaver (eighth note), and this is incorrect as it's supposed to be a whole note. I was able to correct this and I now have the G showing as a whole note now. My issue now is with the missing rests.
 
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Antaren said:
Thanks again Pete.

Regarding:
I would revert to the non polyphonic staff style for the passages that don't need it in that case.
Pete, so there's a way to revert to non polyphonic staff in just part of that staff? How would I do that? It's just one measure where I need to use the polyphonic staff.
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As the E is tied over it looks like you need two bars. In this case I would make that region two bars long, then the next region (and previous regions) is where you have the non-poly style.

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The F is not attached to the G. The G is being tied to the G quaver (eighth note), and this is incorrect as it's supposed to be a whole note. I was able to correct this and I now have the G showing as a whole note now. My issue now is with the missing rests.
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I realised the F is not attached to the G, but either way it would be wrong to have it as a crotchet as opposed to two quavers tied across beat 3.
 
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This is what I mean:
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In this case I hide rests from ch 2 in the staff style, then re-added them as user rests: first two to position them nicely and the final crotchet rest. I also added an invisible semibreve to bar 2 to hide just the voice 1 rest in bar 2.

Like this you could stay with this staff style and just enter the non-polyphonic notes as cha 1.

Note the F syncopation is tied across beat 3.
 
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Thanks again Peter. I was able to get the quarter note rest in easily, but the eighth rest was tricky. Somehow it worked.
I noted the F syncopation. The measure I posted was a very rough draft of the arrangement I'm working on. I will "tone it up" when I get all the parts figured out. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
 
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