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Logic X Is there Latency when using external midi?

Discussion in 'Logic Pro X' started by Antaren, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Antaren

    Antaren Logician

    Really basic question here. Is latency just an occurance when recording audio? Do I need to be aware of this with external midi also? Soft synths?

  3. Pete Thomas

    Pete Thomas Administrator Staff Member

    I've never ever noticed latency with external MIDI, there could possibly be some miniscule amount (maybe with very long cables???) but it's never been an issue for me.
  4. Antaren

    Antaren Logician

    Thanks Pete. I'm clearing up the holes in my knowledge. An endless task!
  5. bayswater

    bayswater Logician

    With the older 5 pin MIDI, it's a minimum of about 3 msec between the time a MIDI Note On signal is sent and the time a note triggers. Could be longer using MIDI thru, poorly designed synths and patches, etc. But in normal use it's unnoticeable. With USB I suppose it could be less.
  6. Peter Ostry

    Peter Ostry Administrator Staff Member

    With MIDI cables, be aware of slow MIDI interfaces.

    MIDI sent to your computer, processed there and going out again may introduce considerable latency, with MIDI cables as well as via USB. In these cases (if latency is a problem for you) consider using another method if technically possible.
  7. Antaren

    Antaren Logician

    Thanks bayswater and Peter. I'll listen closely. Do soft synths/plug-in also create latency?
  8. Peter Ostry

    Peter Ostry Administrator Staff Member

    Maybe there are some which process and output MIDI and need some time for that, but generally no, soft synths do not create MIDI latency. If softsysths react too late, they may get the notes too late or it's their own slow response or a problem with audio latency, I/O buffer, CPU etc.

    MIDI runs separately from audio, the messages contain just numbers and MIDI is relatively slow overall. Timing problems arise in a hardware setup for example when you daisy-chain too many devices or if a MIDI interface is too slow. You can almost be sure to run into MIDI timing issues in a mixed setup with computer, soft synths and hardware modules. Or with timing-sensitive applications like a MIDI guitar when a computer is involved.
  9. Antaren

    Antaren Logician

    Thanks Peter. I only have one midi source, the keyboard. I'm on a hunt for a new keyboard as my old one is dying. The ones I'm looking at also have USB connection.

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