Logic Pro 7 & earlier Logic Audio 5.5.1 for Windows 10???

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Sergio Motroni

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Hi All,
I am new to the group but have been using Logic for years now. I have recently had a problem with my PC running Windows XP. Logic Audio 5.5.1 has been running very well in XP. My PC has died and I have had to have hard drive re-formatted and new Windows 10 loaded as there is no longer support for XP. I have also misplaced my Logic Audio 5.5.1 disc so cannot reload software into my PC. I believe this versions will not run on Win 10 anyway. Does anyone know where I can purchase a copy of Logic that will run on Win 10?? I need to have the same features as I am used to in Logic Audio 5.5.1. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
 
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Welcome to the LUG Segio. While it isn't what you want to hear, I think the chances of finding a legal copy of Logic 5.5.1 are pretty small. Furthermore, the chances of running Logic 5 stably in Windows 10 may not be that high. It is approaching some 13 years since this last (and very fine) version of Logic for windows was released. It may be time to move on, either to an alternative DAW on the windows platform, or have a look at Logic Pro X in Mac OSX.

kind regards

Mark
 
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Hi Mark,
Thanks for your reply. Looks like your suggestion of going to Mac OS and dumping Windows may be the best option for me. I am so familiar with 5.5.1 having been using it for such a long time that I really want to be able to have the same interface and features. I only use Logic for midi recording and editing midi files; I do not use any off the audio features, so ideally if I switched to Mac OS I will be looking for a version of Logic with the same midi processing and editing features. Do you know if there are currently different versions of Logic for Mac OS to choose from?? I really don't want to pay for features that I won't use. Thanks and hope you can help me further.
 
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The current version of Logic is Logic Pro X 10.2.1. X, and is the only version of Logic that Apple offers. It replaced Logic 9 back in 2013. Please be aware that there have been many substantial changes to logic between 2002 when Logic 5 was released, and 2013 when Logic Pro X came out. So along with starting to use an Apple computer you will have to put in some work to re-familiarise yourself with Logic. I made the switch back when Logic 7 came out in 2004 (I used Logic Windows prior to that) and even then it took a few weeks to become comfortable with all the changes. One thing I would like to mention,, the package offered in Logic Pro X is IMO astonishing value for money.

kind regards

Mark
 
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For PC Logic 5.5 does not work on Win10 but version 5.3 does look like it is working on Win10 64 bit, not working with 64 bit vsti btw. But it will run, all you need to do is change the compatibility of you exe's to xp sp3. So of program, plugin enable and uninstal. Do have midi problems when loading 5.5 made songs, audio fine but usb midi does not want to start on load of 5.5 made beats. Midi works fine on new 5.3 songs. Trying to find a fix for that atm, will report the fix if i find it in the 5 on win7 topic here 😉

BTW, i tried the newest version using vm ware player Siera, no latency at all. But imo the setup of the new logic sucks big time. Most functions are hiden away not as natural as our beloved v5. Tried Fruity for a while but that only has 24 points in between 2 notes, so can't make decent grooves on that or delay sequences like logic can. So giving up on the new tool and am trying to make the old logic work again, as i miss making music with joy. Fruity made me feel like going backward as it is too limiting in the sequencing part and if you play your notes using midi then the recording always puts the recorded midi out of sync. In logic i hardly need to use quantise as it records it exactly as we play it. So logic pc still beats most other newer sequences even logic X as that has destroyed the whole way logic was set up, pitty they had to change a perfectly good running tool and hijack it to only work for MAC grrrr So not worth buying an over priced computer as then you pressure yourself way too much to make money with your computer to try to earn back the load of cash you spend on buying that damn mac. Takes away all your joy in producing music as i have seen happening to many musician friends who because of it finaly lost interest in music production all together.
 
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UPDATE: Logic 5 PC User Tricks to fix compatibility problems 2018 Windows 10 + How to use 64 Bit VSTi:

I have been using Logic for years, was using XP but that had 1 gb ram limit. And 5.51 would not run on newer versions of Windows. But some weeks ago i found a way to install and run Logic 5 on Windows 10, no ram limit eighter. The key is to use Logic 5.3 instead of 5.5.1. 5.5.1 will not install or run on Windows 10. Emagic Logic Audio Platinum 5.3 will install and run fine on Win10, and best of all no 1 gb limit i run it with 16 gb ram in it.

64Bit Plugins: Logic 5.3 and 5.5 are 32 bit so 64 bit plugins do not run on it. But there is a trick.

Get xlutop-Chainer VST [Vsti or Vst]
Get JBridge

Chainer can run the newer plugins that do not give sound ones you load them as normal VSTi. So if a VSTi does not give you sound while playing, load the same vsti inside chainer and you will hear sound.

1 exception to this are 64 bit plugins Logic can not run 64 bit plugins but there is a tool called jbridge which can create a 32 bit version of a 64 bit vsti. Install the tool then tell the tool to scan your 64 bit plugin folder, and set the output of the 32 bit plugin to save to your logic vst folder. Restart logic and it will load the 64 bit converted vsti. But if you load the vsti to an instrument channel , no sound !

So then open Chainer and load the 32 bit version inside chainer, and there you go, you can play the 64 bit version.

* I encounter 1 weird error: If you load up old 5.5.1 songs in version 5.3 then it plays fine on audio and midi, but,,, For some reason your midi controller will not work. Ones you start a new song then midi works fine. If you start writing notes to create a beat and save the song, then load the song up ones you have your usb keyboard connected, then again logic will not find your usb keyboard. So there is something wrong with how logic 5.3 saves the used usb midi keyboard. I think it has to do with not saved usb controller in the pref file. Will check if i can find a fix for that, if anyone knows the fix love to hear it obviously.

+ Problems while installing 5.3 on win10 ? I could install it without even changing compatibility. But ones installed go to your program files/logic 5.3 folder and right click every .EXE in your logic folder Properties, compatible with xp sp3 , apply. Do that with all EXE in your logic folder, plugin enable, easi, uninstall and the program off course. If you have VST plugins installed already in another vst plugins folder. A simple copy of the vst dll to your logic vst folder does the trick, so no need to reinstall your installed plugins. And no need to move nexus content as example 😉

Where to get 5.3 ?
That i can not help you with, i worked at a studio years ago and ones the studio stopped i got my hands on some old material. So i found the older update that way. Will probably be very hard to find on the net as most use 5.5.1 if using pc logic 😉

Ps chainer and jbridge sites are still online, did not know if links were allowed, so removed the links in my topic. But a google search will bring you to their webpages, to test the demo or get it
 
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Does anyone know if one can find the old Logic 5.5 lying somewhere in the depths of the internet? I have some really old Logic 4 projects, which I can't open in the latest Pro X, but... ( there's always a but 😀 ) If I find the old Logic 5 and open and save the Projects with that, I should be able to open them with the latest X.
 
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I'll reply to Sami first. I have Logic 5.5.1 on a WinXP computer I almost never use. What I have used it for is opening Logic 4 files and saving them as Logic 5.51. It's very easy for me to boot this computer up, open a file and then save it as a Logic 5 file. PM me if you'd like me to do that for you.

Last summer the PC I was using for Logic died. I bought a Mac Pro (2010) and made the migration to Logic X. At first I was completely confused and overwhelmed by Logic X. Then I took a course on Udemy on music production in Logic X and haven't looked back. It is SO MUCH MORE POWERFUL! Admittedly I bought a beast of a Mac (compared to the old PC) that I can now do everything in one box.
 
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Sergio Motroni said:
Hi All,
I am new to the group but have been using Logic for years now. I have recently had a problem with my PC running Windows XP. Logic Audio 5.5.1 has been running very well in XP. My PC has died and I have had to have hard drive re-formatted and new Windows 10 loaded as there is no longer support for XP. I have also misplaced my Logic Audio 5.5.1 disc so cannot reload software into my PC. I believe this versions will not run on Win 10 anyway. Does anyone know where I can purchase a copy of Logic that will run on Win 10?? I need to have the same features as I am used to in Logic Audio 5.5.1. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
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Hi Sergio. Have been using LAP 25 years now. Am on Ver 5.5 now. Run it on XP SP3 in my studio. Recently tried to set it up on Win 7x64, not working. Then tried it on Win10X64, and MIDI side working well. But having problem with ASIO recognising my Zoom R24, and this causes my Kontakt Player 5 not to load. Otherwise, I have all the facilities like on ny XP computer.
 
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SamiBoman said:
Does anyone know if one can find the old Logic 5.5 lying somewhere in the depths of the internet? I have some really old Logic 4 projects, which I can't open in the latest Pro X, but... ( there's always a but 😀 ) If I find the old Logic 5 and open and save the Projects with that, I should be able to open them with the latest X.
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I’ve found that I need to open and then save them in Logic 7 (the last version, I think it’s 7.2.3). After that I open in Logic 9 and save again. Then I open in Logic X and save again. You may be able to skip the Logic 9 step, but I think my experience with that has been inconsistent.

Most, if not all, of your 3rd-party plug-ins will no longer work, so if needed remember (while you’re in Logic 7) to bounce all your tracks with the effects you want to keep. And make sure when saving the new versions that all the appropriate boxes are checked (that allow you to choose which files to copy over).

Usually the mixer routing is a complete mess after moving into a new version, so that will need to be sorted out. But, at least the tracks will be there.
 
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Hi Sergio and CK,
I ran Logic 5.51 on a Win XP system until last summer when that system died. I decided at the time to bite the bullet and upgrade to a Mac and Logic X. It was a pretty steep learning curve figuring out all the new features of Logic X, but I've got most of it figured out now. I bought a used Mac Pro that is a beast compared to my old system. Also, when you consider Logic 5 didn't like RAM in excess of 1 GB and my new system has 32 GB it's a major step up. I held off making the switch until my old system died and now I'm wondering why I waited so long. It's great to be able to use any current plugin, and have no concern about RAM usage (at least not yet). The only use I have for Logic 5.51 is to load old Logic 4 files and save them as Logic 5 so I can load them into Logic X.

Steve
 
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Logic Platinum 5.5.1 works fine on Win 10

You just have to install as an administrator and use the original dongle with the proper authorisations.

That's all.
 
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Remco said:
Logic Platinum 5.5.1 works fine on Win 10

You just have to install as an administrator and use the original dongle with the proper authorisations.

That's all.
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I don't think this is true. I have two authorized XSKEYs and the original Logic 5 Platinum cd and upgrade patches including 5.51. XSKEY authorization passes but it always hangs at "initializing external sample editor".
 
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PassiePassion said:
For PC Logic 5.5 does not work on Win10 but version 5.3 does look like it is working on Win10 64 bit, not working with 64 bit vsti btw. But it will run, all you need to do is change the compatibility of you exe's to xp sp3. So of program, plugin enable and uninstal. Do have midi problems when loading 5.5 made songs, audio fine but usb midi does not want to start on load of 5.5 made beats. Midi works fine on new 5.3 songs. Trying to find a fix for that atm, will report the fix if i find it in the 5 on win7 topic here 😉

BTW, i tried the newest version using vm ware player Siera, no latency at all. But imo the setup of the new logic sucks big time. Most functions are hiden away not as natural as our beloved v5. Tried Fruity for a while but that only has 24 points in between 2 notes, so can't make decent grooves on that or delay sequences like logic can. So giving up on the new tool and am trying to make the old logic work again, as i miss making music with joy. Fruity made me feel like going backward as it is too limiting in the sequencing part and if you play your notes using midi then the recording always puts the recorded midi out of sync. In logic i hardly need to use quantise as it records it exactly as we play it. So logic pc still beats most other newer sequences even logic X as that has destroyed the whole way logic was set up, pitty they had to change a perfectly good running tool and hijack it to only work for MAC grrrr So not worth buying an over priced computer as then you pressure yourself way too much to make money with your computer to try to earn back the load of cash you spend on buying that damn mac. Takes away all your joy in producing music as i have seen happening to many musician friends who because of it finaly lost interest in music production all together.
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Logic 5.3 will not run for me in W10 64. It always hangs at "initializing external sample editor", the same as 5.51. I've tried setting all executables to compatibility for XP sp3 and running the main exe as administrator with no luck. egg
 
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Pantonality said:
But why in the world would you want to??
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Some reasons may be as follows:
I have been using Logic since it was released, so all of my song files are in Logic or Notator formats. I have never found Cubase or other sequencers to be as powerful and useable for my needs as a midi musician. I have about 30 midi devices, and the Logic environment screen allows these and the Emagic Unitor 8 and AMT-8 midi interfaces to be managed easily with these devices, while other software increasingly focuses on plugins rather than hardware midi instruments. Older versions of Logic support SoundDiver 3 for instrument editing and library functions. I haven't used any version of Logic for Os9 or OSX that performs as well as Logic on PC. I have Logic 1, 2 (Atari), 5 (PC), and 5-9 (Mac). My G4 (Os9) and G5 (OSX) cheese grater Mac Pros or Intel Core 2 Duo Mac Mini systems are incredibly sluggish and unresponsive compared to an XP compatible PC that can run an Intel 3770k or better with a modern video card. Using Mac versions on such systems is disruptive to workflow due to slow scrubbing, scrolling, and screen updates. Many faster Mac models like imacs cannot use pci, pcix or pcie cards due to absence of slots. I use Emagic Audiowerk 8 and MOTU pcie 424 cards with 3 MOTU 2408 digital mixers, which are cost prohibitive to replace. A current Mac Pro is definitely cost prohibitive at the starting price of $6000. The last trash can Mac Pro would not accommodate a PCIe or PCIx card afaik.
I can hobble along on a cheese grater Mac Pro, but I think the PC version performs better. Basically, I feel that Logic was negatively impacted when acquired by Apple, and Emagic Logic may be the better alternative for midi focused musicians. Wish I could get it running under Windows 10 on my fastest PCs.

I got Logic 5.51 running under Windows 10 Hyper-V but there is no sound or other device support other than the XSKEY, even through remote connection, so that's not useable at all.

Fortunately I have an LGA1155 motherboard that has XP drivers so I can build a new Intel i7 system to run 5.51.
Of course I will have to give up most of the improved bundled software instruments of current versions, but I personally prefer the sound of hardware analogs etc.

Cheers
 
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neurocrash said:
I don't think this is true. I have two authorized XSKEYs and the original Logic 5 Platinum cd and upgrade patches including 5.51. XSKEY authorization passes but it always hangs at "initializing external sample editor".
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Works fine here, disable the external sample editor, just plain Logic no external plugins or editors.....
 
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How can you disable the external sample editor if the program won't run? (Edit: I don't have any external sample editor afaik)
Thanks!
 
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