Logic Pro 9 Midi Composition - Retrograde & Inversion

Two standard compositional techniques of classical* music composition are melodic inversion and retrograde motion. In simple form, if you have a melody that goes C,D,E, retrograde would give you E,D,C without flipping the rhythms. Inversion would give you C, Bb,Ab. You can also have both (retorgrade-inversion). I want to know the simplest ways to perform these permutations to a midi selection within Logic. For those of you that use these techniques, please let me know how you do this.

I know that tools to do this are very common in notation programs (I use Sibelius), I haven't found how in Logic.


* Don't want to get into a esoteric discussion of Renaissance, Baroque, Neoclassical, Serial etc. vs. "Pop" music. I love them all.
Have you looked at Reverse Position and Reverse Pitch in the Piano Roll's Functions/Transfer menu? Not as fully featured as what you get in Sibelius, but they might help.

Did you have any luck making retrograde happen? I have had success doing inversions from the transform window, but "reverse position" has only worked on occasion and then... it tended to reverse position of all the notes but give them the same very short duration, which isn't very useful...
hi guys, sorry to interrupt. im a real novice to both internet forums and logic, and im pretty sure this is bad etiquette...however

Only just got logic (moved on from sonar), and was wondering if there is an easy method of notation (i noticed it was mentioned above). all i can seem to do is drag crotchets from the left and drop them onto the staves. i do have a midi keyboard, and was hoping i could in some way use it....basically, is there a way to write music as you would on sibelius, on logic?