Logic Pro 9 More of a question, how good is logic's audio editing

shreddersinc

Logician
I was wondering how good logic 9 audio editing is compared to other daw's...just out of curiosity, I know some people say it's great and others disagree, It does what I need it too.But for the power daw users... Can it hold up against pro tools and cubase?

The only problem I've had is getting logic to easily conform to my off tempo (free playing) recordings, this may be my lack of experience. But If I record audio freely I have to record all midi freely...which can be hard for a lousy keyboard player like me.
 

Eli

Logician
Depends what specific type of audio editing you are asking about. I can only speak for logic and pro Tools (I don't use Cubase). As far as conforming tempos to freely played audio - they're about the same. No matter what, you will need to do some sort of beat mapping or other. The process is slightly different in Logic and Pro Tools; but one isn't decisively better than the other (IMHO).

WRT basic bread and butter editing, you can really fly in PT. Tabbing to regions boundaries, tweaking head and tail lengths, fades, etc - you can fly in PT. You can do all of this in Logic as well, it's just a matter of personal work flow preferences. I wouldn't say that there is absolutely any specific thing that can only be done in one or the other. They both do it all - just differently.
 

shreddersinc

Logician
Thanks Eli for the informative reply...Learning one DAW well is probably enough for me unless one was far superior.
Yeah the beat mapping has been a B**ch for me, but I'm finding doable workarounds.
 

Eli

Logician
If you were telling me that you are doing eight hours a day editing sound effects for a game developer, or editing dialogue for post production, etc - I'd say go to Pro Tools. But for regular day to day tasks, I agree - stick with the DAW you know best and just learn to do what you need to do on it, and learn to work with it.
 

gdoubleyou

Logician
Also if you have to do surgical edits, or functions not available in Logic.

You can specify the audio editor of your choice in the Audio preferences, under the Sample Editor tab.

The under the Option menu/ audio, you will get an Open With option when the audio is selected.

:cool:
 

shreddersinc

Logician
Thanks again eli, good to know

gdoubleyou...yes i watched a tutorial on how to do this, but what would be the sound editor to use? I'm asking more out of curiosity at this point...someone's opinion I fairly trust online said soundtrack's pro audio editing wasn't better than audacity (This was a while back, I could have this opinion all wrong)
Thanks for the reply, I did forget about that, so you can virtually use almost any sound editor?
 

Orren Merton

Logic Samurai / Administrator
Staff member
I'm asking more out of curiosity at this point...
My personal recommendation is DSP Quattro, which is awesome.

someone's opinion I fairly trust online said soundtrack's pro audio editing wasn't better
If I had the time, I could write a few pages on how I think Soundtrack Pro is an absolute abomination and one of the least "Apple-like" applications ever to be developed. But instead I'll just say: correct, Soundtrack Pro's audio editing isn't better than anything. My experiences with STP have been so bad, if STP were my only digital option I think I would honestly and truly prefer going back to slicing magnetic tape with a razor blade. It's no accident that Apple discontinued STP.

(heh...and that's my non-ranty rant...)

so you can virtually use almost any sound editor?
Yup. Just assign it to the key command, and you're good to go.

Orren
 

shreddersinc

Logician
Thanks Orren,
You cleared alot up, I will check out that sound editor!
Now I know to stay away from STP
Rather than wasting days...wondering what the problem is!
 

BeeCee

Logician
here it is July 2013 and I have just spent a few days on Soundtrack Pro. Though I knew it was discontinued I was reading posts that lead me to believe it was still good to go. Wish I had read Orren's post first, doh. I found STP to be just okay. What about editing audio using Adobe Audition? I have seen an impressive video of noise removal and was wondering how that may compare to DSP Quattro or Iced Audio's Audiofinder, both which I haven't looked at yet, and others given a big wrap such as iZotope RX2. Adobe seems to work on colours, is that a relatively new thing in audio or is it just another spectrum analyser?
 

forgetr

Logician
I highly recommend iZotope RX. It's noise removal is second to none, it has great pitch correction (if you're shifting a whole region), awesome SRC. It's just all-around great. If you deal with a lot of problematic audio, it's a must-have. You can also apply effects to your audio within RX using your third-party AU/VST plugins. What's really cool is you can apply any effect to your selection only, so if you only want to apply an effect to a certain time/frequency range, you can do that. I don't know of any other editors that can do this as easily as RX can.

Adobe Audition is an entirely separate DAW, it's not just a sample editor. I can't tell you much about it other than that.
 
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