Logic Pro 9 Sampling basics

[bubbleslogic]

Hello

Im sorry if this is a stupid question but I have been googling like a maniac all day and have yet to find a clear solution.

I am running Logic 9 on a macbook.

I want to get a song into Logic and chop it up and rebuild it, a reedit if you will, but this could apply to any sample I wanted to use and clean up.

I am a little unsure how to do this, do I import the song straight into the EX sampler or chop the song into samples on the audio track, I have been trying various methods, I can isolate the part of the song I want to use as a sample in the sample editor but cant put it into an audio track.

I use to use Cool Edit Pro to chop a song into samples before importing them but I dont have Cool Edit any more and presume you can do a similar thing in Logic.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Thanks

 

[bambony]

Hello

Im sorry if this is a stupid question but I have been googling like a maniac all day and have yet to find a clear solution.

I am running Logic 9 on a macbook.

I want to get a song into Logic and chop it up and rebuild it, a reedit if you will, but this could apply to any sample I wanted to use and clean up.

I am a little unsure how to do this, do I import the song straight into the EX sampler or chop the song into samples on the audio track, I have been trying various methods, I can isolate the part of the song I want to use as a sample in the sample editor but cant put it into an audio track.

I use to use Cool Edit Pro to chop a song into samples before importing them but I dont have Cool Edit any more and presume you can do a similar thing in Logic.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Thanks

Just chuck the audio file into a stereo audio track and trim, cut and paste the parts as you desire. One tip would be to match the tempo making snipping easier assuming the song has a constant tempo.

No need to use the EXS fot this kind of job. Cut it up as you would in Cool edit.

HTH

Tony

 

[bubbleslogic]

Cheers for that.

So is their any reason for going into the EXS or can most of my sampling needs be taken care of just by cutting the audio track, and how do you match the tempo?

 

[bambony]

Cheers for that.

So is their any reason for going into the EXS or can most of my sampling needs be taken care of just by cutting the audio track, and how do you match the tempo?

You will not be "sampling" per se but cutting up audio and creating a re-edited version of the track. EXS is more for musical or mangling of audio as part of a song; drum hits, strings, sound effects etc.

To match tempo place the very first beat of the song on the 1st beat of bar 1 - although it doesn't have to be bar 1. Make sure the metronome is playing and simply adjust the tempo as the song plays to fit. The further you get in the song the more you can fine tune the tempo. If it is a constant tempo get the basic tempo correct and fine tune it at the end of the track until the click and tune are in sync.

If the song tempo deviates then you'll have to make decisions about tempo or not bother at all and simply cut the track up regardless of tempo (i.e. turn the metronome off) and butt the edges of the redits carefully as you go.

HTH

Tony

 

[bubbleslogic]

Ok, thanks again.

Say tho I had cut up some audio on the audio track and wanted to get it into the ESX, how would I do that?

I presume you can do more stuff like pitch shifting etc with the ESX.

 

[bambony]

In addtion to what I have said you'll need to learn how to trim in very small increments to fine tune the edits. Use operator keys (CTRL/shift etc) in addition to dragging of edges and zooming in to ensure smooth editing.

This might sound hard but it isnt; it's a lot easier than splicing tape with razor blades that us old folk used in order to achieve the same end many years back.

Tony

 

[bambony]

Ok, thanks again.

Say tho I had cut up some audio on the audio track and wanted to get it into the ESX, how would I do that?

I presume you can do more stuff like pitch shifting etc with the ESX.

You can apply effects to audio tracks - you don't need a sampler. The ESX is more for MIDI and/or keyboard control of audio and short bursts of sounds that will be repeated throughout a track.

HTH

Tony

 

[bubbleslogic]

Cheers Tony you have been very helpful.

 

[Markdvc]

Say tho I had cut up some audio on the audio track and wanted to get it into the ESX, how would I do that?

In Logic 9 use the new "convert regions to new sampler track" function:

I presume you can do more stuff like pitch shifting etc with the ESX.

You certainly can. The EXS 24 Mk II chapter in the "Logic Studio Instruments" pdf which comes with Logic 9 is your friend for going through the basics of working with the EXS.

kind regards

Mark

 

[bubbleslogic]

Thanks Mark